Interview with Dane Tyghe
Sean Crowley 
Dane Tyghe is one of Ireland's best-known Driving Instructors, he gives us his top tips on preparing for the driving test.
Dane Tyghe is a very experienced professional driving instructor. He has Ireland,s biggest learner driver YouTube Channel. He talks to Sean about the test & how best to prepare.
Here is a transcript of the interview if you would prefer to read the details of my chat with Dane.
Hi everybody, welcome to this episode. And on this episode, I'm delighted to say that we have probably Ireland's best known driving instructor. And I'm not talking about myself, I am talking about its Mr. YouTube, if you Google or if you check YouTube for driving lessons or the driving test in Ireland, there's one name that will come up. And there are a huge amount of videos and they're all absolutely fantastic.
So I reached out to him. And I was delighted when he said, Yes, Sean, I'd love to talk to you. We're going over to Wexford to talk to Dane Tyghe. Hello Dane, how are you?
Hello, Sean. Good to be with you. Thanks for having me.
Do you like my backdrop. This is the new bridge coming into Tralee.
Yes, yes. Very nice. Indeed. Yeah. Beautiful.
My room behind was such a mess. I said I had to put up one of these little backdrops in zoom. Just to make it look good.
Yeah, I think it definitely lifts the mood anyway. So yeah, very good.
It's a whole lot better than my room behind me, I'll tell you that much.
Now we could talk for ages about being driving instructors. And how we started and how we got on with our careers as driving instructors, but the people watching this don't really want to hear about that. They want to hear about how they're going to pass their driving test and the big tips to help them pass the test. So that's, that's my first question to you is, how am I going to pass my driving test?
Preparation is key. I mean, it is it is the big question, as you know, Sean, that you'd get asked a lot, and people would email me or in the comment section of YouTube. And the first word I would say is preparation. I would say the people in the current time anyway, just not to apply for a test unless you're an essential worker as per the guidelines. But in normal times, I would say, don't apply for a cancellation, unless you really need it. Because you could easily get a test at very short notice. You may not have time to get lessons, you may find yourself under pressure. And I find that could be a reason, let's say for a lack of success. But the key word is preparation. I think if people plan and prepare properly, that every chance of passing the test, or at least getting close and learning from the experience. So that means having a plan in place like have your instructor called up and have the lessons booked in. Maybe even get a lesson with the instructor or a lesson or two, before you apply, just to ensure that you're ready or close to being ready. Like I had a lesson this morning with a girl and she asked me Am I ready? Am I ready for my test? And they said yes you are. And because she was a GAA person I use the GAA analogy. And I'm sure she was from tableau. So I knew she knew or heard. And so I said just Just think of it like division one and heart and Okay, you have Tipperary, cork, Wexford, Waterford, kokanee, you're in Division One. I'm not saying you're gonna win division one, but you're able to compete in Division One, you're not like parallel released on Division Two. And that's the other thing I say to people. They asked me, are they ready for a test, for example, and I would say, yes, you're ready. But I can't guarantee your past because it depends on the day. But putting a good plan in place. liaising with your instructor not getting a cancellation unless you need it. I like when people kind of let the three or four weeks come true. And we can get a lesson a week or I like to get more lessons closer to the test is. And as well as that there's lots of reading material. You can you can look up as well online. Look, for example, the rules that are orders is free online, you can download it. You're great website, Sean as well, looks really good. And congratulations to you on that. I encourage anybody to check that was passed first time, my own videos as well. And you can easily search for like teary and road signs as well. So it's all about putting a plan in place, linking with your instructor. And I always like to say as well, Shawn, that the whole driving test and planning for a driving test I like to think of it as as a journey, and not as an end destination. So I like to encourage people, like on my banner on my YouTube channel, I have, like safe driving is for life, not just a driving test. Because I think if you can intertwine those, you're going to be a good safe driver. And you're going to have a great chance of passing your test. So if you take a kind of a broader, more holistic approach to this thing, you're going to be more successful. And it's all about planning.
You've probably answered my next question. I was well into the bargain there really. But the pass rates republished lately for IRA for every county in the country. And if you were to average the moat, the pass rate is still about 50%. Now I've been a driving instructor for over 20 years. And the pass rate 20 years ago, was about 50%. So you think like that with the extra DDT the 12 lessons and people taking possibly more lessons before the test that the pass rate would increase? Why do you Why do you think the pass rate isn't increasing?
I have a theory on dashawn. And it's a very good, good question. And it's very interesting question. So you you're saying there that the average is about 50%. Which which, which is, which is true, I have no reason to start wasn't kind of percent familiar. I told her to come up with it. I taught figures of mode from the RSS, and that it had come up a little bit since EDT, but I'm not I'm not really sure. But here's the thing I want people to know about this. Let's say you have people doing a test, okay? So you have 50%, on average, you're gonna pass and 50% on average, you're gonna fail. Now, if you take Shawn to 50% of people that are going to fail, okay, I would then divide them into two or three categories. So of the 50, that will fail, there's always going to be a certain amount of people who are just, you know, chancing around, not getting enough lessons just just not have the required standard. So I would have them as kind of like, if you're a parent and a pawn, like, lost causes it for want of a better phrase, you know, now the other 50% of that 50, if you know what I mean, they're the ones who are doing their best with lessons, maybe get the appropriate lessons do all the practice. And doors are the ones then that or you could say unfortunate, a little bit unlucky. So I would, I would encourage people to look at it that way to 50% of the pass, great, congratulations to them, but of the other 50 that don't pass, there's always going to be in my opinion, a cohort there that are just kind of chancing around, maybe to have them after tax, this Akbar during show, I don't know if that's counted as Vader or just not like a non test as such, but there'll always be a certain amount that will lead or just not do it wonder at the right time, or well, chances are, you know, make perhaps unusual mistakes or run a red light where they would normally run a regulation. But I would hope that generally the standard is raising a little bit. As you said, it's a good point about the lessons since 2011. We did learners have had to get 12 mandatory EDT lessons. So you would hope that that would have a positive impact overall. But I would also like to see as well, Shawn, I'm sure you would agree that going forward that we would look at what they're doing in the UK where they have parallel parking as part of the test their parking and following satnavs directions. I would love to, if we had that on top of the EDT 12 lessons, I think we'd really, really be going places then.
Yeah, definitely. It's, it's strange. In the UK, there is no mandatory lesson. So there's no 12 lessons. Yeah, but the average amount of lessons that a person takes UK is way higher than here. I think the average in the UK is about 47 lessons. So they're taking more lessons, I suppose the cities are busier now maybe. And
I think I think as well as people might have a slice of maybe a bit more worry or a bit more fear about parallel parking and the emergency stuff, maybe in the parking and I think that might might kind of play in mentally and they might, they might kind of get extra lessons on that basis. So it's interesting, I wasn't aware actually, that that that the lessons was so high there. So that's, that's quite interesting. And I would say I would probably hazard a guess that could be something to do with the parallel parking. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like challenging manoeuvres that that have a more more white, wider variety of manoeuvres, like,
Okay, and
what are the from that will say, so that I mean, the tip for learner drivers listening is to prepare earlier and make sure you're prepared. I mean, every driving instructor in the country who, who hears this will, will be able to identify with people coming. The analogy I use, by the way, is when somebody comes to me and they're not prepared, and they have two days to go before their tests. I tell them that it's comparable to running a marathon two days later and and only going into training. Now. It's kind of awkward to walk maybe now for someone that is, you know, porgera, early PrEP is definitely the key. I'd agree with that. 110%. What are the most common questions if I was to ask for maybe two or three very common questions that learner drivers come to pre test? Why? What are the big questions they're asking?
Well, I find that the first thing I would find is a lot of learner drivers would ask about the theory. And the role of science, for example, they did off did often asked me like, what questions will they ask are? Do I have to warn them in that exact way? And then the road signs as well. So I'd often then email them a list of the 40 or 50 top questions and the road signs as well, that often asked about that. And I think sometimes people who may have dyslexia or certain learning difficulties might get a little bit more stressed about that. Then persons who wouldn't have any any issues in that regard. Also, people would ask regularly enough actually, on the reverse around the corner for example, I often get asked about Do I need to indicate on the reverse around the corner Do I need to indicate left now I always said no. And I ended I ended up talking to a tester in Wexford. Anyway and And he said it's he just said to me there's no rule on it like if they want to indicate their can it's no issue but tell them not to lose any sleep over it then because it's not a big deal Do you would you tell people to indicate under reverse around the corner Shawn?
I agree with you. I tell them not to but I know some instructors do and I explained it the very same way as you did. It makes no real difference if you do yeah, and what I say to people is that if you were to think about the car coming up behind you, it can look a little confusing if you've got the left signal on and the reverse lights are on Okay, it's not quite sure whether you're parked or in reverse or you're coming back whereas if you have
yeah that's that's good yeah that's what that's what I say yeah, so but under the tester was saying that he didn't delete or he just added as well as at the end just just make sure that they remember to indicate race moving off because sometimes you know when the when the indicator is on and you can hear it a tick tock tick tock for left there might go into for scared and under my kind of duty look some blind spot and go under my actually forget Oh, am I forget I'm actually indicating left here. I have to indicate race. So he did say that. But to go back to your question, I regularly get asked that about the reverse around the corner. Also, I get asked a lot about the use of the handbrake, do I need to use the handbrake here, there and everywhere. And I developed a little acronym for that. Like I had developed this acronym a long long time ago, it was in my early bachelor lessons probably 2016 or something. Basically, it's halt hitch lt like halt first stop. And I would say to people then think of doors for letters as the first letter of the words hitch for Hill. It was a problem I had to really think about. So I came up with a lighting as in you know, like disembarking and letting someone else slash parking. And then l could be lights like traffic lights, and then T for time if you're stuck over four or five seconds. So I would regularly get asked about using the handbrake. And at the same time I would say to him just visualise yourself at a stop sign turning left, you're on a slate just ever so slight downhill. And you're only stopped for a moment. Just make sure you start fully into your appropriate looks, but there's probably no need for the handbrake there. And I know some instructors say or use a handbrake or use the handbrake at every single stop saying I don't really think that's necessary. I think it's important is to stop just stop a stop sign rather than use the handbrake. So people will ask me, Shawn, about the teary. Little bit concerns about theory, what questions I get asked, as I said, the indicated non reverse when to use the handbrake. And occasionally I'd get asked about, like, if I'm at a stop sign, and there's nothing coming. Do I really need to stop? Or can I just do a rolling stop? And I have to share a funny post I found which I am not I'm not claiming credit for this because I found this on one of the driving instructor forums, I think it was the Facebook forums. And he said I saw a client I saw a learner driver asked me today, do I have to stop fully at a stop sign if there's nothing in common? Or can I just kind of roll slowly through it and treat it like a yield sign? Let's say? So the driving instructor answered back and said, Well think of it this way. Let's say a guard pulls out of the car and starts beating you with his back like beat you really, really hard, God forbid, obviously. And and the guard says or the policeman says, you know, do you want me to slow down? Or do you want me to stop? Yeah, makes
it very heavier? Yeah. I mean, again, you get that question as well. Or very regularly. Yeah, very. And I find that the longer people are driving, the more they're used to rolling through stop signs. And it can be very difficult to get them to stop, you know, and it is it's a very regular question.
Yeah. Here's just one more emotion.
Yeah, sorry. Why
do I just tired of it? We're talking a lot a lot. A lot of people this may even be the more maybe even more popular than the reversing indicator one asked me Do I need to indicate overtaking power cars? That comes up a lot now. And I usually have a just a kind of a general rule where I say, if you feel you're going over the halfway line, or if there's no halfway line, where you would take the halfway line would be, then it can be a good idea to indicate. But I would always say just just make sure you don't leave it on too long. In case there's another return up ahead that you don't want to have a misleading. And I would always try and promote the benefit of the you know, you're not a quick signal where you give it a little a little tap and it just signals three times on my record. So has that. So that would be another very popular question. What would be your thoughts on on that?
And I've heard I always said, If I was to sum it up for people, I'd say if in doubt signal as long as the signal doesn't confuse I don't think there's any penalty for it. I don't think they'd get a penalty. What around the town. I mean, if you have a line of power cars, and they actually did a video on my YouTube channel about this recently, because somebody asked me if there's a load of parked cars and there's a big gap in the middle, do I stay out or do I go back in you know, it's it's a similar thing. So I tend people And it's true of a lot of parents of the driving test use your common sense, you know, but I would encourage people normally, if they felt the signal was necessary and felt a similar would benefit from it, that they would use it. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Like, it's it's a very unusual thing. And it's only when you talk to more driving instructors, you realise all of us teach slightly differently, definitely. But a lot of driving instructors have slightly different views on everything. And it's not, it's not that any of us are wrong or right, really, it's just yeah. And I think that that's,
that's a good point. And I'd always say that to people as well, I would occasionally have people that will be coming to me for lessons and they may have had lessons from someone else in Wexford, or even coming from another county, they might have moved down from Dublin or something like that. And I always say to them, if I if I say something to you, that's different to the previous instructor. Don't Don't I said, Don't worry, they're just there's more than one way to skin a cat. It's not that one of us has race, or one of us is wrong. It's just that, you know, it's just that sometimes there's more than one right way to do a certain thing. And I would always explain it to them and use a diagram to say that, you know, sometimes both answers might might be right, because you know, every time you drive somewhere, you're gonna have different people, you're gonna have different hazards, you're gonna have different cars on the road. So you're definitely right to it, there would be a certain variation, but for the most part, I say we all sing off the same hymn sheet. It's just that there might be certain little differences that that is not surprising.
Yeah, the goal is the same thing for all instructors. Because the examiner is if you if you've noticed the don'ts with the IRS are different as well. examiners. Yes. And very in particular, students fire as well. And it's just it's kind of being human, I suppose really more than any. Exactly it Yeah,
yes. Good. That's a good point about the examiners because they have their own preference, like some examiner's would be really big on progress, like driving too slow and others on observation and stuff. Yeah.
Here's another question for you now, you'll be able to answer this no problem. How many lessons will it take before I pass the driving test? How many lessons do I need? Well,
that is that easy. 164 steps? Not a question. Yeah. And again, it is probably related to our previous point about everybody being different, and everybody being unique. So Person A could guess for example, the 12 EDT lessons that he or she needs, and there may only need to retreat. And after that, alright, I've had some people who have given the 12 lessons to, they've kept, they've kept an eye on my YouTube videos, and they've actually went past it without even coming back to me. The honest answer to that question, Shawn is, is probably the most common words that I write in my YouTube comments when I'm replying back to people on a comment. And that is, it depends on the situation. And I would say it's paraphrase. It depends on the person. But I know people are probably looking for a bit bit more than that. So I give I'll give maybe a slightly more specific answer. So basically, you're gonna need to 12 anyways, we all know and I would always say to people, even if strata decent standards, right, like like a natural, good confident driver, I would always say a tree is the magic number. Because I feel that if I have tree lessons with someone, they can do tree more or less different routes, I can do tree reverses turnabouts in his stars and I get a good I can get a good gauge of someone with tree lessons. One is a bit tricky to is better, but it's not perfect. And I always feel it. Because sometimes when you have a less than somebody, you kind of spend the first lesson kind of getting to know them and getting to know their weaknesses and trying to find out what your concerns are. So I would say that tree is a good number. But it does depend on the person. And I find that there's there's a couple of different types of hosts divide them into two learners, learners, drivers who are getting ready for a test. I had a girl last week who was quite good at the manoeuvres, so she was really good on Hill starts quite good on turnabouts. And even on the reverse on a corner, she actually did a very, very well, there was no issue, even though she was worried about it. But her issue was was the general driving a common to roundabouts not slowing down and off kind of late going down the gears breaking a bit sudden down at the line, this kind of stuff. Whereas older drivers might be kind of confident enough with the general driving, but they may have issues with the steering on the turnabout or the technique on the reverse around the corner. And that's why I said shaunda sometimes it's better to get at least three because in that first lesson you have to kind of find out this or that or kind of zone in are they are they a bit tricky with art a bit weak on clutch control and blind junctions, but that might be okay with everything else. So it's a tough one. It is a tough one to answer and I'm sure you'll agree. I say it's a I'd say just to summarise it just depends on the person.
It's I find though it's tough on a young learner drivers know because a lot of them are not insured and the family care because insurance. Well, it's the age old problem for young drivers. It's always been there it's probably a bit worse now. But when they come then for lessons did a lot of them will have no experience or no driving in between the lessons and their pretest lessons. From EDT we'll send to pretest. It's very tough for them, because then they're trying to, in a few short lessons make up that gap. And like I often say to people, the only thing I don't sell is a bucket of experience. You know, if I sold one open to experience, I'd be a millionaire. Yeah. Because Yeah,
kind of reminds me of, and again, if I was to use a ga analogy, it'd be like, drivers like you described are there they're like doing they're not Junior like, like you said, Junior harder will be like someone doing reading at a senior heart or be someone doing the test is kind of like their intermediate or they're better than learners. They're better than beginners, but are just not quite at the pretest. Level just yet, so I can fully understand what you mean by by your description of that category of learners drivers there. Yeah.
It's very tough. very profoundly. It's an uphill battle for them, but most of them get their Indian tanks busy guys. Yes. That's,
that's a good point. I mean, that's the thing that they like most, and we'll get there in the end. Yeah, you just have to keep plugging away.
Another question. For for learner drivers who are watching this. How do you pick a driving school? What tips would you give them for picking a driving school or a driving instructor? It's very important. Yeah. Dr. Sood, samithi? Because there's,
yeah, yeah, it is. And I would always say I made a video or this was one topic that came up in a recent video where I'd say, don't be afraid to kind of maybe try one lesson with one instructor or maybe another lesson with another one. And just like pay as you go, whatever it is, 3540 whatever people are charging, and just see how you get on though. I said, People don't don't be Don't be afraid to do that. Because you know, you are the customer. And you have every every right to do that. I would always say to people ask around as well like, like, ask family and friends who did they guess. And you know, very often words, word spreads around pretty quick. I would also offer, I mean, everybody would go to Google for these things. Notice, as a greyish, like Google is a fantastic resource for for finding out things. So you can certainly go there and you will be able to check out the websites of driving schools, and you'll be able to see then how how they kind of present themselves. And you know, if they have a good professional, nice website with lots of things explained and everything, everything clearly laid out a problem that's probably going to reflect their personalities as well. But I would generally say ask around word of mouth, Google, family, friends, work colleagues. Google Yeah, as the as the best way of doing that, you know, we'll do something similar, Shawn,
I watch. I think like a car is a very confined space. You know, it's it's very important that you get on with your instructor, it's very important that you feel comfortable in the in the car. And I think it's also very important that after every lesson, you get out and you think, yeah, I learned something there. You know, and I benefited from that. And, you know, if people are not happy, even with the EDT, and I think it's important for students to know that I think a lot of students believe that once they start EDT with one instructor, they have to stay with that instructor for the 12 minutes. Yeah, you don't want to you know, absolutely, yeah. It is because like, not everybody is going to get on with everybody is, you know, what I mean, for a number of different reasons. And I think for the, you know, people are paying a lot of money for driving lessons. And it's important that you know, they're they're reaping the benefits of them and that they're happy. You should not be and I've heard this lately from from from a girl who came to me for lessons, she dreaded going for her driving lessons, she told me, and I thought in this day and age looked at that can't be rage, annoyed. It's not right. And so looking. Yeah, I mean, if you're not happy, look around. You don't have to stick with the same instructor for the EDT and move around until you are and you know,
because if you're not happy, like like that girl you mentioned or if you're not happy, or you are you're you're anxious or you're worried going to the driving lessons, you're mentally you're probably not in the right state to learn things. And you probably duck are probably wouldn't feel comfortable asking questions to the instructor and so on and so forth. So your own learning that aren't learner drivers learning will suffer? If you're not enjoying the lessons if they're not if they don't, if they find them tough going, or if there's a kind of a lack of communication, let's say yeah,
yeah. Listen, nearly time to wrap up. I want to talk about automatic driving before we go any further before we finish up. And it's, it's coming in slowly but surely, and all the hybrid cars now. You know, like, like, somebody said to me lately, I said, you know, what do you think of automatic cars? And he said, No, no, no, I think the next car I'll buy is a hybrid. But most people don't realise that all hybrids are automatic, you know, it's it's par for the course electric cars are going to be automatic. And we you know, whether people like it or not over the next couple of years, you won't be able to buy manual cars anymore. They're going to phase them out. So that all cars are going to be hybrid electrics by default automatics? How long? It's a tough question because you have people come in for lessons now who are talking about using an automatic car? Or maybe one to do their adts automatics? What kind of tires would you have for them?
Well, I speed echo on what you said. They're like automatics are definitely on the way and are going to become more widespread, without a doubt. And I think that's good in the long run. It'll make my videos on gears and clutch pretty much are done and anywhere for a while. So I'd have to I'd have to start doing more videos on Paragon drive, and all that kind of stuff. But I'm, I'm off for that challenge anyway. So I definitely think it's coming. I think it'll probably improve standards, because I think it can only be good because people wonder learning may not have the same insecurities and hang ups about clutch and gears and costing, and so on, and so forth. So they may have more confidence in learning learning to drive, they may progress quicker, because they don't have to worry about clutch and gears and all that kind of stuff, especially for somebody who might not be as coordinated. And so I think that'll be a positive thing. And I think, as you I think you what you said is very, very, very true. They're very prophetic as well, Shawn at the start, he said, it could it's happening. And it could happen like very, very quickly, in the same way as it's very hard to find a diesel, small diesel car No, like, and I think it could, people could be surprised by how quickly it could happen. And I think I'm no expert on engineering, I would always I would always watch the news, if something came up about automatic cars, or auto drive cars, or, you know, like, self drive car, sorry, is the word I'm looking for. I think when we finally get all the charging stations around the country, and when we finally have automatic cars that are automatic electric cars that can you know, do a trip to Dublin and back or Belfast and back or Dingle and back, then you have people have more confidence in them. And when people have more confidence in something, and the demand is there, that's when your prediction will come very, very true where it could happen, like in a waterfall. So it is happening. As you said, I'll be honest with you. I don't do as many lessons as I used to the last few years because I'm kind of focused on a few other things, but I would I would do the lessons. And I haven't had that many automatics. I had wondered late last year but not a whole lot but I can definitely see a common in it's the weightings are gone. And you know, and as I said it could happen a lot quicker. A lot more dramatically than than people think yeah,
I think it will. Let's take it one step further. So admit was totally unemployed is driving instructors. The driverless car, there's driver taxis in America already, apparently. And in China. It's just an app on your phone and the taxi arrives there's not a senior incisiveness.
I don't know. We could be you know, you hear news reports now of like, factories, closing down or factories laying off people because everything that's gone off matters. My only hope, Shawn is that even though it will be automated or self driving cars will be automated, obviously. That may be that people will still have to be able to drive the car in case something malfunctions with the technology that yes, you still have to. Yeah, get in and drive. But that might be our only hope. But you know, it could be a could be a tricky road to burn. Yeah, we might be unemployed in the not too distant future. Hopefully not.
Hopefully not. Listen, before we go. It's been great. Thank you very much, by the way for doing this. I should say it's for both of us. It's our first time doing zoom interview. And
I have I have used Skype many times but I it this is definitely the first resume and I've heard all about zoom on, you know, during lockdown. So it's that it's the first for me. Yeah,
I'm keeping everything crossed that it all ends up okay, when I when I stopped recording. And listen, one last tip for the young learner drivers of Ireland who are preparing for their driving test. If you were to sum it up in one sentence, how are they going to pass and we'll leave it at that.
I would say to think of driving as a marathon, not a sprint to encourage drivers young and old das. It's all about the journey rather than the destination. And always remember that if you can be a good safe driver for life, you're going to pass the test anywhere. So if you have the philosophy costing is bad because it can cause the car to go faster down the hill. And that can cause you to brake harder, and it could cause the car to wear down a little bit more. So if you have that idea that costing just to use costing as an example, Shawn, that costing is bad for driving generally for the environment for everything, as well as being bad for the for the driving test. I think that to me is is what motivates me to do the videos to be a driving instructor. is a good safe trading is for life, not just a test.
Okay, well that's that's another video I'd like to do actually put maybe sometime in the future hopefully is about your backstory about the videos because like I say personally anywhere I'd like to hear that and I've been funny people funny feeling a lot of people watching might like to hear as well. You have other videos, YouTube channels that we might talk about, and stuff like that. So hopefully we'll get back and do this maybe in a couple of weeks time if you're if you're all pressed.
Yes, absolutely, Shawn. I'd be happy to do that.
Brilliant. Check out Dan's YouTube channel, Dan tie. Again, I'm not gonna ask you where the name came from. We'll save that for the next video as well. It'd be a good one. For check out Dean's all you have to do is Google driving test in Ireland and his channel will come up anyway. Listen, thanks very much again, Dan. It's been a real pleasure. And hopefully we'll talk again in the next couple of weeks.
Sounds good. Thanks for having me, Sean. It was a pleasure.
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